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Aug 17 2011, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 17 2011, 10:17 AM)  Come on blue!!! No one really is depressed about Fabregas, because even the ones who were on the bandwagon, deep down, they knew he would never happen for us. I'm just surprised that you believed in it so much. It's shocking to me how the Ibrahimovic deal last season has absolutely blinded some people into thinking Galliani is the Messiah... Have we all forgotten the last6 years of mediocre signings?? That is why I'd be extatic if we goth Montolivo and Aquilani, I'd be disappointed if we got just 1 of them, and livid if we ended up with no one. Schweinsteiger is on the same level as Cesc, he's not going to come. Montolivo and Aquilani are both quality players with a lot of Serie A experience who probably would adjust instantly to our system. This is why I myself and a lot of other wants them to come. Only the ones who were believing in the Fabregas deal are turning their nose at them. Which imo is completely ridiculous as we were never going to get him in the first place. LOL!!!! Galliani is mad at Raiola?? What could little Mino do if the club didn't give him the money to negotiate with? Stupid rumour. Personally I believe that Raiola wasn't working on anything for us and we were never really even close to signing Fabregas. Completely agree with you jacky Both had good seasons in the CL for Roma and Fiorentina. Aquilani first really caught my eye in the CL for Roma. The move to Liverpool was a mistake imo, he would never have made it there. That league is not made for players like Aquilani, maybe Gattuso would have made it big there in his prime days, but players like Aquilani, Montolivo, Pirlo, etc would never make it in the EPL, they're just too delicate for it Come on blue! Silvio promises 2 champions every summer, and yet rarely delivers. And this is a common trend, especially when some sort of elections are coming up. He's a politician my friend, he's built to lie (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Great one, han (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Personally I don't rate Monty and Aquilani that high, but realistically they are our best shot. They might not be world class, but our midfield is so terrible that they can actually improve it. They would add flair and some creativity. I never for one day believe the Cesc and Shweini rumour. Its just rubbish. The whole mister X thing is some ridiculous idea of Galliani. He's such a clown. And the painful thing is he's ridiculing the club and the fans by these unnecessary bullsh*t.
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Aug 17 2011, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE (kdman @ Aug 17 2011, 09:51 AM)  Great one, han (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Personally I don't rate Monty and Aquilani that high, but realistically they are our best shot. They might not be world class, but our midfield is so terrible that they can actually improve it. They would add flair and some creativity. I never for one day believe the Cesc and Shweini rumour. Its just rubbish. The whole mister X thing is some ridiculous idea of Galliani. He's such a clown. And the painful thing is he's ridiculing the club and the fans by these unnecessary bullsh*t. I never really said that they were World Class either, but as you said so yourself,compared to our current midfield picks, they are certainly a huge improvement. Personally I always rated them as good solid players, Montolivo tends to be a little inconsistant, but his abilities cannot be quastioned, so maybe playing in a more well rounded team will benefit his form and performances. While Aquilani has been unlucky these past 2 seasons. I know I might have come off as if I'd prefer them over someone like Cesc, but the reality is that I never believed in the Cesc thing to begin with. I know what the club's financial limits are, therefore I will be more then happy with the 2 Italians and maybe next summer, if we are in a more stable position, we'll bring in a big name for the AM position.
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Aug 17 2011, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE I never really said that they were World Class either, but as you said so yourself,compared to our current midfield picks, they are certainly a huge improvement.
Personally I always rated them as good solid players, Montolivo tends to be a little inconsistant, but his abilities cannot be quastioned, so maybe playing in a more well rounded team will benefit his form and performances. While Aquilani has been unlucky these past 2 seasons. Repetitio est mater studiorum. You'd be a great Roman senator (IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Aug 17 2011, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 17 2011, 11:31 AM)  Repetitio est mater studiorum. You'd be a great Roman senator (IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Well repetition is all I have atm, because after all this debating we're most likely going to end up with nothing at the end of this month... How many days left exactly before the window closes?
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Aug 17 2011, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE (kdman @ Aug 17 2011, 11:58 AM)  14 days before the window closes. And no solid target as of yet...
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Aug 17 2011, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 17 2011, 11:20 AM)  Personally I always rated them as good solid players, Montolivo tends to be a little inconsistant, but his abilities cannot be quastioned, so maybe playing in a more well rounded team will benefit his form and performances. While Aquilani has been unlucky these past 2 seasons.
I know I might have come off as if I'd prefer them over someone like Cesc, but the reality is that I never believed in the Cesc thing to begin with. I know what the club's financial limits are, therefore I will be more then happy with the 2 Italians and maybe next summer, if we are in a more stable position, we'll bring in a big name for the AM position. Do you know according to a statistics I read, he had only four assists in two seasons (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I can't believe it. Thats pretty poor. Still he'd improve our midfield for sure.
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Aug 17 2011, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Aug 17 2011, 12:34 PM)  Pirlo probably also something like that. So ideal Pirlo's replacement. 1. We are not looking to "replace" Pirlo as such. Allegri is not looking for a Pirlo-type player. 2. I want to believe even Pirlo gets more than four (4) assists in two years!!!!!!!!! And even if he doesn't that's beside the point, because we looking for a creative left side midfielder than create as well as score a few himself.
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Aug 17 2011, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE (kdman @ Aug 17 2011, 01:52 PM)  1. We are not looking to "replace" Pirlo as such. Allegri is not looking for a Pirlo-type player.
2. I want to believe even Pirlo gets more than four (4) assists in two years!!!!!!!!! And even if he doesn't that's beside the point, because we looking for a creative left side midfielder than create as well as score a few himself. Montolivo is different from Pirlo, and simply fits better in Allegri's midfield than Pirlo does. And Pirlo does had something similar, but you shouldn't be too obsessed with stats like that, else you get a response like mine which you will take too seriously. Montolivo is creative, he can create attacks, and he is capable of scoring goals, and at least he can somewhat attack unlike Pirlo. And can defend well enough, unlike Pirlo.
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Aug 17 2011, 01:10 PM
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My-o-my. This isn't the freakin' 70's or a time where George Best ended up with 20 assists. Creativity does not necessarily mean assists. In modern context, especially a well-oiled creative engine that Milan supposed to have for decades, it means the ignition, the simple pass with vision - to let's say Ibra- who then assists Pato for the goal. Such contributions are not yet noted by stats (who are nowadays obsessed with running, miles and ball interception) but if you follow a team closely you know it's their heart. That's what's Pirlo been.
If it's Montolivo, I'm not sure. I'm willing to give him the chance to prove himself. But, the fact that he's linked with absolutely no one except us isn't telling me he's "that" good. Han, you mentioned Pirlo and Kaka coming in for cheap money as well - and without much pomp or a "world class tag" on them. Yet, Pirlo came with 22, this guy has already 26.
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Aug 17 2011, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE Montolivo is creative, he can create attacks, and he is capable of scoring goals, and at least he can somewhat attack unlike Pirlo. And can defend well enough, unlike Pirlo. Classic Chu-Pirlo bashing nonsense. Please, get over it, why are you still after the man?
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Aug 17 2011, 01:18 PM
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O rather you can't post without making Pirlo look bad from time to time.
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