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 Sep 12 2007, 08:05 PM
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Smoking Bianco  Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191  |
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 12 2007, 09:55 PM) Are you serious?  Yes, why ? I mean the G14 involve the biggest European clubs around, and they usually have a higher voice than the not so big clubs ... They try to rally things to their benefit, but in the end (what I'm trying to say..) UEFA aren't waiting for the G14 to agree with them (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Sep 12 2007, 08:07 PM
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Primavera  Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 12 2007, 10:05 PM) Yes, why ? I mean the G14 involve the biggest European clubs around, and they usually have a higher voice than the not so big clubs ... They try to rally things to their benefit, but in the end (what I'm trying to say..) UEFA aren't waiting for the G14 to agree with them (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Oh, OK... just remember what happened the last time they threatened they'd create their own league! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Platini is helpless before those guys! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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Sep 12 2007, 08:13 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 12 2007, 10:07 PM) Oh, OK... just remember what happened the last time they threatened they'd create their own league! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Platini is helpless before those guys! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) If ur referring to the super league thing ... It wont work unless UEFA agrees, which then makes it a legitimate league. Has UEFA agreed (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Anyways, the G14 do have a voice, but t ain't as influential as it is believed it to be. |
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Sep 12 2007, 08:24 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 12 2007, 10:13 PM) If ur referring to the super league thing ... It wont work unless UEFA agrees, which then makes it a legitimate league. Has UEFA agreed (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Anyways, the G14 do have a voice, but t ain't as influential as it is believed it to be. Why won't it work unless UEFA agrees!?? They can't force them to do it under their rules... I just asked you to remember what happened. In case you don't, UEFA backed out and that says is all... We just don't agree so there's no point arguing anymore since both of us have made our opinions clear. |
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Sep 12 2007, 08:39 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 12 2007, 10:24 PM) Why won't it work unless UEFA agrees!?? They can't force them to do it under their rules... I just asked you to remember what happened. In case you don't, UEFA backed out and that says is all... We just don't agree so there's no point arguing anymore since both of us have made our opinions clear. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) No, no ... I don't mean that I should be right or u should be right (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I used to be of the opinion that the G14 is the sh1t ... But just recently, I have come to learn that they need UEFA's approval if they want that Super League. Why UEFA's agreement ? Because if UEFA don't approve, all their matches won't be recorded (there wont be any record for their teams nor their players at FIFA). That is what I understood just recently ... Talk to me 3 months ago and I would have had the exact opinion that u have (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Now whether I am sure 100% about this, I am not. In fact I am not sure about what u claim ... But again, this is why we are in a forum (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Why am I giving UEFA the image that it is BIGGER than G14 .. Because Kuwait has a problem with it's FA. We don't have a president for the FA nor do we have board members (Corruption) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) In simple English, the league has halted. And FIFA was brought in to intervene ... The whole issue is being worked at as I am typing ... Hope now u understand where I got my assumption from. |
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Sep 12 2007, 08:45 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 12 2007, 10:39 PM) Because if UEFA don't approve, all their matches won't be recorded (there wont be any record for their teams nor their players at FIFA). That's true... but the G-14 wouldn't care that much. UEFA have many more things to lose than records that's why I'm saying the G-14 have true power over them. QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 12 2007, 10:39 PM) Why am I giving UEFA the image that it is BIGGER than G14 .. Because Kuwait has a problem with it's FA. We don't have a president for the FA nor do we have board members (Corruption) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) In simple English, the league has halted. And FIFA was brought in to intervene ... The whole issue is being worked at as I am typing ... I don't get it... what does this have to do with the G-14!?? This post has been edited by dst: Sep 12 2007, 08:45 PM |
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Sep 12 2007, 09:01 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 12 2007, 10:45 PM) I don't get it... what does this have to do with the G-14!?? Well, I tried to sum it up ... But u had no clue in the first place (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Okay, with all the chaos that is going on ... The newspapers keep us up to date, and there are several articles on what is going on etc ... a couple of months ago, 3 I think, an article was published about if the Kuwaitis don't reach an agreement with the AFC (or better yet FIFA), the league and national team would loose out status in the world of FIFA. The people behind the chaos are 4 people (who formed a coalition), each a president of his own club and they wanted to have at least one of them as an FA member. In this they gave an example of the G14 in Europe and the UEFA, and that if the G14 (with all its prestigious clubs) can't over rule UEFA then the 4 Kuwaitis need to back off from their demands (what I said above, that was what was written in the article). Again, I am not here to assert anything on u, neither r u on me ... Rather, I want to understand so this is my contribution to help us understand (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) |
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Sep 12 2007, 09:06 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
But the chasm is big here... The G-14 ARE the CL... the competition won't survive without them!
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Sep 12 2007, 09:09 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 12 2007, 10:45 PM) That's true... but the G-14 wouldn't care that much. UEFA have many more things to lose than records that's why I'm saying the G-14 have true power over them. Yeah they might have the power in terms of the best players in the world and the most decorated clubs around, u have a point there .. Other than that, UEFA is a part of FIFA. Something that is much bigger than European football, let alone G14 ... That is what I was looking at ... But knowing ur underlying love for Blatter and Platini, I know exactly why u stand by the G14 (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) |
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Sep 12 2007, 09:16 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 12 2007, 11:06 PM) But the chasm is big here... The G-14 ARE the CL... the competition won't survive without them! Yes they are (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) That is why I said they have a voice much bigger than the smaller clubs. They are a legitimate organization and I agree, but they are playing in a UEFA competition under FIFA rules. That is all I am saying ... I think the G14 huff and puff, but under all the hype, they need UEFA much more than UEFA needs them. The G14 help each other and all that, and they get their way with UEFA in certain instances ... But UEFA don't need the G14 permission if they plan to implement anything. |
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Sep 12 2007, 11:12 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 12 2007, 11:16 PM) That is why I said they have a voice much bigger than the smaller clubs. They are a legitimate organization and I agree, but they are playing in a UEFA competition under FIFA rules. That is all I am saying ... No they're not! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Just kidding... I'm trying to say that the G-14 can survive without UEFA... it's UEFA that would have problems surviving without them! Thus, UEFA fear that if they pull the driving rein too much, the horse might kick them down... The G-14 do not want a competition of their own but if they had to do it, they would do it! QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 12 2007, 11:16 PM) I think the G14 huff and puff, but under all the hype, they need UEFA much more than UEFA needs them. The G14 help each other and all that, and they get their way with UEFA in certain instances ... But UEFA don't need the G14 permission if they plan to implement anything. Do not think of the G-14 as a number of strong clubs only. Football is money and everyone who earns from football wants the big teams in! Sponsors, TV broadcasters they ALL want the G-14 to be strong! And they are backing them up... |
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Sep 13 2007, 01:02 AM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 13 2007, 01:12 AM) Do not think of the G-14 as a number of strong clubs only. Football is money and everyone who earns from football wants the big teams in! Sponsors, TV broadcasters they ALL want the G-14 to be strong! And they are backing them up... This right here ... sh1t I think I am gonna quote u one day !!! The G14 are not just a bunch of football clubs, but the back bone of the financial footballing world (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) And that is the weapon which they have. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) But regulation is under UEFA as a whole ... And as I agreed before that UEFA would let the G14 get their way in certain instances (which could be attributed to financial gains..), they wouldn't necessarily need the backing of the G14 for anything. Out of the article that Porty posted only Liverpool and United were the protesters. I don't think this has any bearing to bring in the whole G14 anyways, but rather they want to look after their own interests .. Keeping that 4th place open for anyone of them (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) p.s. I hate politics and the whole issue revolves around politics. But again I do thank u for bringing up the issue about the $$ as it is VERY significant to European football today, especially where the G14 stand (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Sep 13 2007, 03:29 AM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 11,735 Joined: 5-September 05 From: Portland Member No.: 347 |
QUOTE PARRY CONFIRMS CUP PLAN OPPOSITION Jimmy Rice 12 September 2007 (IMG:http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icliverpool/oct2006/5/2/1825BBD6-F722-223F-5991C38D7F495618.jpg) Rick Parry has confirmed the club's opposition to plans for FA Cup winners to get a Champions League spot. UEFA president Michel Platini is behind the proposal, which would see only the top three from the Barclays Premier League enter Europe's premier competition. Parry said: "Contrary to the claim only Liverpool and Manchester United oppose this in England, all the Premier League clubs at the UEFA meeting did so, and this position is supported by the Premier League itself. "It's not a question of self-interest by the big clubs, because if you look at the recent FA Cup winners, all were in the top four. It's just more of a lottery in the cup. "There's a strong feeling the Champions League place should be based on Premier League performance. "Liverpool, Manchester United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Newcastle all feel the same way." http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N...070912-1348.htm kurt what's up with Rick Parry and his stupid ties? (IMG:http://www.foxsports.com.au/common/imagedata/0,5001,5381516,00.jpg) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Seriously. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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Sep 13 2007, 10:11 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
Of course the Premier League don't want that to happen...
And the tie in the second picture... it seems like he found that on a potato chips bag or something! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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Sep 13 2007, 02:59 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,192 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
QUOTE (Porty @ Sep 13 2007, 02:29 AM) kurt what's up with Rick Parry and his stupid ties? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Seriously. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) They really do make you wish you had no eyes sometimes. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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