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bigmacmtl
post Sep 2 2007, 05:03 AM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 1 2007, 07:52 PM)
PLUS ... That is what u get for overspending and not consentrating on a compact side (eg Milan)
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they got chivu and suazo, thats overspending?ur clearly suffering from galliani syndrome (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) what were the supposed to do with adriano??he's a drunken bum who he hasnt done in the past year and a half so they wanted sumone who will hopefully perform (suazo).
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post Sep 2 2007, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Sep 2 2007, 07:03 AM)
they got chivu and suazo, thats overspending?ur clearly suffering from galliani syndrome (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)   what were the supposed to do with adriano??he's a drunken bum who he hasnt done in the past year and a half so they wanted sumone who will hopefully perform (suazo).
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Who said anything about Chivu (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I wasn't refering to Adriano being "drunk" ... And I don't think it is fair for u to draw conclusions like that.

What I meant was this is what happens when u have 6 forwards and can only play 2. This is what happens when u overspend.

I mean look at Milan, Silvio Berlusconi could bring in 12 strikers if he wants ... But where would that leave Gila (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) This my example of Milan, which is supposed to explain the difference between the two sides (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Sep 2 2007, 12:19 PM
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Go Darmian!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 4 2007, 02:33 AM
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Hey, I've seen Darmian play. He's quite good, especially given his youth.

Anyway, snippet of news for the CL group phase: Chelsea has left Michael Ballack off their list for the Group Stage games.
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post Sep 4 2007, 02:43 AM
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I think Ballack's time at Chelsea is as good as over, when you have Mikel being picked in front of you, things aren't good.

The 32nd team was decided. Sevilla won the first leg 2-0 at home.

AEK Athens 1-4 Sevilla
31' [0 - 1] L. Fabiano (pen.)
41' [0 - 2] S. Keita
45' [0 - 3] L. Fabiano
53' [0 - 4] A. Kerzhakov
81' [1 - 4] Rivaldo
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post Sep 12 2007, 04:09 AM
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Manchester United and Liverpool oppose Platini

Liverpool and Manchester United have formally declared their opposition to UEFA president Michel Platini's plans for domestic cup winners to qualify for the Champions League.

The English clubs were the most outspoken opponents to the proposals among the 102 members of the European Club Forum who met in Nyon, Switzerland, on Tuesday.

There was a general acceptance of Platini's proposals to secure more places in the group stages of the competition for champions of the smaller leagues in Europe, but opinion was divided over his plan for cup winners.

UEFA communications director William Gaillard said: 'The most opposed to those proposals were Liverpool and Manchester United - they do not want to see a change to the format at all.

'Across the top seven countries however opinion was mixed. The Italians are strongly in favour because they want to revamp their cup competition, the Spanish and the French said it should be up to their FAs to decide, while the Germans were split among themselves.

'The clubs from the smaller countries were generally in agreement.'
The board of the forum will now decide whether to suggest counter-proposals to UEFA, who will decide on any changes at an executive committee meeting in November.

Chelsea chief executive Peter Kenyon is a member of the forum's board but he would not take such a strong position as the other two English clubs.


I'm totally against it. I'm with ManUtd in this one. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Sep 12 2007, 07:04 AM
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QUOTE (Porty @ Sep 11 2007, 09:09 PM)
I'm totally against it. I'm with ManUtd in this one.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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What is it exactly that they want to do?
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post Sep 12 2007, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE (Porty @ Sep 12 2007, 06:09 AM)
I'm totally against it. I'm with ManUtd in this one.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Me too!

QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Sep 12 2007, 09:04 AM)
What is it exactly that they want to do?
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On September 27 the federation will sit at Istanbul to discuss several matters. Platini wants to put forward the changes he wants to make in the Champions League (maybe he will decide to do it later on if he sees he doesn't have the backing...) and he's going to have his first real argument since he became President of the UEFA. These changes are for the 2009-2012 period. There are many ideas he wants to dish up, some of them are radical some are bloodless (for the G14 members)!

(The bloodless ones:) One of the measures he will propose will see the 75% of the UCL Final tickets go to the hands of fans and not sponsors and other... "engagements"! That is a good one... Moreover he wants the Final to be held only at 75+K capacity stadiums, a thought that will exclude most of Europe's stadia (and cities) but I think is right cause the Final should be played at a stadium as big as possible! Another one of these plain measures (and a weird one) is that he wishes the Final to be played on Saturday evening rather than Wednesday evening... he sees Saturday as a more... "family day"... or whatever!

But there are also big changes he has in mind and those will run into the G14 and the big federations! Platini's plan is not to cut the number of teams the big countries have in the competition but to make it harder for them to get into it and so to give bigger chances to other Champions to enter... the Champions League (In the draw a fortnight ago only 13 of the 32 teams were champions in their countries)! Platini wants the domestic Cup winners to be given a place in the CL too. Until now, 24 leagues oppose to this measure. English, and rightly so, are the greatest polemicists to this as the dynamic of the Premier League and the enormous TV contracts are threatened if the 4th League place does not mean a chance to enter to the CL! Some say the FA would like to see this measure be applied but they don't have the power to come against the Premiership administrators (?).

The strategy committee, in which the UEFA vice-presidents, the clubs, leagues and players take part, led by Şenes Erzik, will work up these thoughts and will propose their own measures to the executive committee on September 27. A proposal made by Umberto Gandini (Milan's representative and Organizational Manager) was to decrease the number of automatic qualifications spots to 20 and leave the other 12 spots up for grabs but Platini does not want to tail off the auto qual. spots!

To conclude, Platini, in the two days' congress at Istanbul will have to start the first big fight against a board he created himself and the committee that already blindsided him on the Euro 2012 issue...
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post Sep 12 2007, 11:21 AM
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I don't think it's a good idea, cuz in Italy the Moratti cup shouldn't be given any extra privileges.
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post Sep 12 2007, 11:32 AM
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At least it will make the Coppa more interesting. Big teams will go for it, especially if they are having a bad season in the league, like we had last year.
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post Sep 12 2007, 03:04 PM
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I think it's a decent idea.

And finally UEFA has a president with balls, for way too long the giants of European football have been protected. I personally don't see how a team that finishes 4th and wins nothing deserves something more than a team that wins a trophy.

But when you really look at the big picture, will this really change anything? Not in England and Italy at least, recently it's been Roma/Inter and the big 4 in England winning the Cup competition anyways, and how often do they finish outside the top 4? Hardly ever.

My overall opinion is that it will make each Cup competition bigger, as it will increase competitiveness with the bigger teams going for it.
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post Sep 12 2007, 04:02 PM
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Question is: Will G-14 allow Platini to do that? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Sep 12 2007, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE (Porty @ Sep 12 2007, 06:02 PM)

Rhetorical...
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QUOTE (Porty @ Sep 12 2007, 06:02 PM)


The G14 don't have any influence in UEFA. They are just an organization that works from within ...

They might voice their opinions, but that is as far as it goes ... IMO, Platini wont change much, and if he did, it wont change Milan's targets in any way (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Sep 12 2007, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 12 2007, 09:37 PM)
The G14 don't have any influence in UEFA. They are just an organization that works from within ...
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Are you serious?
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